Well, Christopher Bollyn did not like being silenced,
and he fought back. Low and behold, that book is now in the Schaumberg
library. My little book, Final Judgment.
To make a long story short, through his initial contact with The
Spotlight newspaper through one of our associates
there Jerry Myers, Christopher Bollyn has new emerged, as far as
I am concerned, as the star journalist in the independent movement
of journalists who are writing about the things that people need
to know about. This is whether it is about things going on in the
Middle East or what is happening with 9-11, or about the Oklahoma
City bombing.
Christopher has written about Venezuela. He has been down there.
He has traveled all over the world. And accompanying him in these
ventures is his beautiful wife Hellia. I know there are a lot of
listeners out there who believe that women are to be seen and not
heard. Well, Hellia is a sight to be seen. She is a very beautiful
woman. But she is also a very intelligent and articulate woman who
has been a real helpful partner to Christopher in his worldwide
traveling, and in his investigations. You cannot find a better team
anywhere. They also have two absolutely charming and intelligent
children.
Christopher Bollyn: You are too
kind.
MCP: I am being truthful. You are the best journalist
out there. I always tell people I am a hack writer with opinions,
but you go out there and dig and dig and get information that nobody
else gets. One thing that I have noticed in the last few years is
a lot of the articles you have generated, a lot of the information
you have come up with, has been circulated all over the world. But
people do not give credit where credit is due. In this case it is
Christopher Bollyn. You know a lot of people are lazy and like to
take credit for things themselves, but you have been the one who
has dug out a lot of this information. I already told the callers
what we will talk about, and it is very controversial. It is about
Israel's role in 9-11, and the emerging evidence that is being kept
quiet.
MCP: We will discuss an article
he wrote for the American Free Press.
That article struck me as being very moderate and very tempered,
and yet very powerful. It left me feeling like "My God, what
is going on here?" Can give me some details?
Christopher Bollyn: You are referring to the article
I wrote about the Simon family and their connections?
MCP: Yes.
Bollyn: Your listeners should understand that 9-11
was done by a very small group of people. Not the 19 Arab hi-jackers,
but a very small group of people. And in the aftermath of 9-11,
the message of what happened during 9-11 has been very carefully
controlled by the media. And as time goes on, we see that the people
who are controlling the message who are spinning the government
version, is a very small group of people. They have great control
of the media, and they have great control of the players. The government
and the media.
In the last article I wrote about this woman involved
in the 9-11 movement. Her name is Debra Simon, and she has been
involved with a lot of the non-mainstream people, like the movie
Loose Change which is a cult classic now
about 9-11. It turns out that Debra Simon was married into the family
of billionaires. The Simon family of Indianapolis. And this is a
very Zionist family that owns many of the retail properties in the
United States. The shopping malls. And this is the thing. Here we
have the relative of a very wealthy Zionist family very much involved
in the 9-11 movement. When I spoke with her on the phone, she was
very clear she had agreed that the Israeli government was involved.
That the evidence was pretty overwhelming. That the Israelis were
involved and had prior knowledge of 9-11. But the interesting thing
is that the people she works with, the people that she supports
and their products do not reflect this belief.
MCP: That is very, very interesting.
In other words, she is willing to acknowledge that the evidence
is there, but the people surrounding her are sort of playing a game
more or less.
Bollyn: Well, right. In a private
conversation with me, she acknowledges Israeli involvement. She
accepts that. But when she helps produce a video such as
Loose Change, the young fellows that produce
Loose Change, they say, "We are not going to
go into Israeli involvement."
There is a variety of reasons we are not going to talk about it.
Their product does not talk about it.
MCP: That is interesting Chris.
Because just the other day, Victor Thorn and Lisa Guiliani of Wing
TV.net published what I thought to be a very devastating list of
people in the 9-11 Truth Movement --who are purporting to be leaders
in the 9-11 truth movement-- otherwise prominently engaged in publicizing
the fact that the whole 9-11 story is not correct. A devastating
number of these people just refuse to acknowledge Israeli involvement
even though as you say at least in some cases people truly believe
it to be the case.
Bollyn: That is the dividing line.
In what we call the 9-11 Truth Movement --people who do not accept
the official version. Your listeners should be aware that on CNN
when they did a poll, on the Anderson Cooper Show a little while
ago, 90% of his mainstream viewers do not believe the official version.
So the mainstream media is aware that there is a huge population
that does not believe the official version. And what we have today
--this summer there will be three mainstream movies coming out.
One has already come out, United 93. There
will be two more. Oliver Stone will come out with a movie. And there
will be a movie about Pentagon 9-11. And you remember Oliver Stone,
he is working with Paramount Pictures. He is working under Sumner
Redstone or [his real Jewish name] Rothstein. And that film and
other films are basically looking at 9-11, accepting the government
version, and being done completely by Jewish filmmakers with a Zionist
bent. So the American public is going to get the interpretation
of 9-11 through the Zionist prism.
MCP: Well, I tell you, another
thing in your article that actually left me feeling a bit queasy,
a little uneasy, a bit unsettled, and that was how you described
--and this was something I was totally unaware of until I read it
in your article-- you described how someone who was close to the
whole 9-11 business explained to you how they were aware that some
of the so-called Arab high-jackers had actually been seen meeting
with Israeli operatives in a video store? Could you tell us more
about that Christopher?
Bollyn: Yes, I can tell you more.
That is my good friend William Rodriguez, and he lives in Jersey
City. He told me this several times. He has even taken a journalist
to that video store about a block away from his house. He told me
it was run by a Pakistani fellow. The thing is that William Rodriguez
is a survivor of 9-11. He is probably one of the biggest activists
working on behalf of the relatives. He was a janitor in the North
Tower. He stayed in the building until it collapsed. The thing is
that in this video store, these Israeli movers, these Mossad agents
that the Forward Magazine later described
as Mossad agents, these movers that were arrested while videotaping
the collapse of the World Trade Center, would meet there. It was
a meeting place where they would meet with some of these so-called
Arab terrorists who were later picked up in Texas and who had been
identified at the World Trade Center.
MCP: The Arabs that you are talking
about Christopher, they were not the alleged high-jackers, these
were other ones.
Bollyn: These were other ones.
I know that I think it was the ones picked up in Texas later, but
they are some of the same Arabs who part of the profile. Part of
the scheme, and these men would meet with these Israelis at this
Jersey City location, this video store. It is something he does
not talk about in public. When Mr. Rodriguez speaks, he does not
go into the Israeli question, because I understand he has a public
role and he is trying to represent all the relatives. He told me
he can't about this because he can't offend the Jewish families.
But I asked him, "What about the American families?" The
blame is being put upon the U.S. Government that they somehow perpetrated
this terrible crime. And Americans go to bed every night questioning
whether the United States Government was involved in the events
of 9-11. But I understand he has to be a little political there.
MCP: That is interesting, because
essentially what this reminds me of is the same phenomenon in the
JFK assassination business. It is perfectly respectable to say that
the American CIA had a hand in the assassination of President Kennedy.
But you cannot dare suggest the Israeli Mossad had a hand in the
assassination. It is kind of that same thing where it would be considered
offensive to certain people if you mention Israel, where it is perfectly
acceptable to blame our own government for the crime. Very interesting.
Bollyn: It is interesting that
they are using Oliver Stone again. Oliver Stone made that JFK movie
with the Israeli arms dealer Arnan Milkan (spelling?). And now Oliver
Stone is once again being called upon to perform his cinematic magic.
And once again he is writing a script that has been given to him
by very Zionist writers, Andrea Berloff, and the producers are Zionists.
Oliver Stone is a nice enough guy I suppose, his father was Jewish.
But the thing is I mean that in all three movies we have producers
and writers who are Zionists.
MCP: Yes, it is interesting Christopher.
I got a phone call last night on the program. I asked people for
constructive criticism. One of the callers came in and said that
he thinks there is too much discussion of --not my words but his
words -- the Jews-- on this program. And I know what he is referring
to the frequent discussion of Israeli involvement in such things
as 9-11, the Oklahoma City bombing, and the Kennedy assassination
and so many of these disasters of the last 50 years so to speak.
And other events in world history. And it all does come down to
the fact that there is this Zionist involvement that has been so
critical. People are very uncomfortable to discuss this. But in
discussing the entirety of the picture you cannot get away from
it. And that is the point that I have tried to emphasize here. We
are not suggesting that the little Jewish businessman who runs the
corner grocery store or the pawnbroker down the street was part
of the 9-11 attacks.
Bollyn: Mike, these are the guys
who own the movie theaters. These are the guys like Sumner Redstone
who own the movie theaters or the shopping malls. They own these
people who build these American houses --these not very well built
American houses.
MCP: They kick in millions of dollars to fund the
Israeli Lobby in Washington, AIPAC.
Bollyn: Mike, these are the guys
who started Hebrew University. Murray Rothstein's father was the
founder of Hebrew University. He is a super Zionist.
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MCP: We are back with someone
I regard as the top independent print journalist in America, and
that is Christopher Bollyn, my friend and colleague with American
Free Press here in Washington, D.C. Christopher is
on the road right now as he usually is, but he took time off to
talk about an article he wrote for American Free Press
about the effort to suppress information and revelations about Israeli
involvement in 9-11. Information that was even known to some of
the people who call themselves truth seekers. Christopher, I do
not want to steal your thunder here, but one thing I would like
to point out is that is certainly related to what we are talking
about is you revealed that there is evidence that Israeli operatives
who were later seen cheering the collapse of the World Trade Center
were known to be meeting these Arabs who were later picked up here
in this country. They were seen meeting in New Jersey in a video
store. A lot of people do not understand how Arabs could be working
with Israelis. But I want to remind people about a story that Robert
Freedman wrote in the Village Voice about
the first attack on the World Trade Center. And he said very specifically
that a Palestinian named Akman (spelling?) Ajaj (spelling ?) was
--although he was a Palestinian Arab, a Muslim, he was an Israeli
double agent inside the first cell that tried to bring down the
World Trade Center. And what is interesting is this Ajaj was a partner
of this Ramsey Huseff (spelling?) whose uncle is supposedly the
guy who coordinated the whole 9-11 attack on behalf of Osama Bin
Ladin. This Ramsey Huseff's (spelling?) uncle, Khalid (spelling?)
Sheik-Mohammed (spelling?) he is the primary source for the official
9-11 report. And these are the guys who were connected to an Israeli
double agent who was an Arab. I have reported in The
Spotlight and the American Free Press
on what Robert Freedman has written. No one will touch that with
a ten foot pole. Why is that?
Bollyn: That is right, Mike. You
are exposing how the system works. It is the same thing, like I
can't confirm this, but I heard when 9-11 happened, or shortly thereafter,
that Mohammed Atta (spelling?) had been involved in a bus bombing
in Israel and spent two years in an Israeli prison. So the Israelis
have a very large pool of candidates to recruit from. And then given
their experience in the weapons operations in Afghanistan, they
have a huge pool of potential operatives. They simply recruit the
people and get them in the right places and monitor their behavior
like they did in Florida, and create the perfect fall guy.
MCP: And they can manipulate them
right to the ultimate goal of what they achieved on 9-11. You know
Christopher, we have quite a few phone callers here, so people obviously
want to talk to you. Let us start bringing them up. We have John
from California. John, come on up.
John: I waylaid Mike a few weeks
ago about your take [Chris] on Chavez [President of Venezuela],
and I just don't trust that guy. What is that Jewish-Zionist element
going on down there, do you know anything about that?
Bollyn: There is an active Zionist
community down there, but the Zionist community, people like Moises
(spelling?) Naim (spelling?) have left that country. The big ones,
and they were involved in corrupt leadership before. You that country
is very rich in oil. And Moises Naim (spelling?) was involved down
there. When Chavez took over, and started using the oil for national,
social purposes, getting people's living standards improved, he
is considered the bad boy. But he has done a lot to help the people.
The people of Venezuela have been neglected by their leadership
in the past, and he has done a great deal. Chavez has given them
medicine, education, and tried to improve their standard of living.
I think that is a pretty good thing.
John: I agree with you to a certain
extent, but he is still a socialist. I am not saying that we do
not need to nationalize our oil industry here. What do you think
of that?
Bollyn: You might think I am far
left, but I think that essential services like the railroads, and
the minerals of a country, definitely deserve to be monitored and
regulated by the government. You cannot allow the entrepreneurial
class to exploit your natural resources without any control by the
government. That is what we have now, and that is what President
Yeltsin of Russia [he meant Putin] is trying to prevent. As soon
as the Russia --the [former] Soviet Union became open to the West--
a very small group of billionaires went in there and took everything.
And they are mostly Israelis now.
John: Yeah, just like what they
have done here with all the de-regulation and this and that and
busting this up.
Bollyn: Well, look at British
Petroleum. It is operating our Alaska Pipeline. What American taxpayers
paid for, British Petroleum is operating. And BP is basic economic
colonialism. They are selling our oil, owning our pipeline, selling
our product, and taking the money back.
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Piper: [resumption at 33:13] Ladies
and gentleman, welcome back, this is Michael Collins Piper coming
to you live from Washington, DC. on the Republic Broadcasting Network.
We are at RBN Live.com, at 5.050 on short-wave, and also at 6.890
on the single sideband in some areas. ...We have John from California
with a discussion of Hugo Chavez, who the Zionists do not like.
They say he has been associate with Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis
and anti-Semites and all sorts of things. Christopher Bollyn just
returned from Venezuela and filed some interesting reports on the
situation there. They were published in the American
Free Press. John, did you have another question or
comment before we move on?
John: I just wanted to clear that
up. I heard Chris a couple of times from France on the report on
9-11. [From "The French Connection" with Daryl Bradford
Smith at http://www.iamthewitness.com/).
On Chavez, I thought I would call him up and ask him personally,
I did not mean any harm to you Michael.
MCP: No, I agree 100% with Christopher
on this subject.
John: Well, I just do not trust
these people in South America. We just have to keep a close eye
on it. I was wondering if Chris knows anything about the Zionist
element in Mexico? They are going through a lot of trouble down
there.
Bollyn: I do not know a lot about
it, but I do know that the Israelis are up to their eyeballs in
the drug smuggling that goes on down there in those countries. I
have seen it myself. I have seen that the Israelis have a lot of
so-called advisors in those countries. Training the death squads
in Columbia and Guatemala and what have you. I saw with my own eyes
how they are all armed with Uzi's and that Israeli advisors were
there. When they would go out to these villages in Guatemala. So
they are all equipped with Israeli stuff. It is just a nasty thing.
MCP: You know Christopher, and
old friend of mine here in D.C., an old Jewish arms dealer, was
the first man to introduce Uzi's into the United States. He brought
them here and now they are all over the streets of Washington, D.C.,
I would be willing to bet. Let's go on to our next caller, Scott
from Massachusetts. How are you doing Scott?
Scott: I am doing great, listening
to two of the best guys in the media and in the press. I have to
be honest, I mean Chris Bollyn, thanks for your honesty and your
candor. And Mike, your forthright presentation and insights are
refreshing to me, and I honestly believe I am talking to two of
the top ten truth tellers in the world today.
MCP: Well I know that I appreciate
the complement, and I am sure Christopher does too. Christopher
certainly deserves it.
Scott: Well, you do too, my friend.
Let me go on. You gentlemen are in good company. I believe that
your steadfastness in telling the truth in the future will be honored
by our Lord and Savior Jesus and that you actually follow in his
footsteps. If you read closely in the New Testament, you'll understand
exactly that you are picking up the cross and following him, and
God bless you for that.
MCP: Well, I tell you what, Scott.
You know I always say I am not a real religious person. But I tell
you what, I do know one thing, and that is that I am not going to
go to hell for anything I have done in speaking out on these issues.
Scott: No, because you are speaking
honestly and from the heart, Michael, and you know Chris I listened
to your interview last Thursday I guess, on the Connection [The
"The French Connection" with Daryl Bradford Smith at http://www.iamthewitness.com/].
I really gained a lot of respect for your ability to handle the
truth and thrive in it. And Godspeed to the two of you who bring
forth the fact that we are a Talmudic nation and that it just gets
worse and worse every day, and all you have to do is go to the Noahide
Laws (spelling?) and public law 102-14 that was passed during the
senior Bush administration effectively putting us under the Noahide
Laws (spelling?) and the subservience to Jewish Talmudic leaders
specified as Menachem Schneerson (spelling?) of the Lubavitch Movement.
I am just horrified by that. And these are the people who are kicking
the Ten Commandments out of the court rooms and out of the schools
and away and supplanting them with these Noahide Laws (spelling?)
which will make our faith basically null and void. And anybody who
participates in it, subject to the same kind of violence that they
perpetrated in the Soviet Union.
MCP: Hey Scott, I am glad you
brought that up. I just about threw up today. I wanted to mention
this at the beginning of the show tonight, but now I have the perfect
segue into it. I opened up the Washington Times
today and there is a full page letter in there. A full page advertisement,
from the Zionist Organization of America. And do you know who has
lent what I thought was his good name and prestige to the campaign
of the Zionist Organization of America? To come down hard on the
Palestinians? No less than William Donahue (spelling?).
Scott: Of the Catholic League.
MCP: Of the Catholic League. This
is a man who I had a little bit of respect for until today. He is
signing on with the very people who have done everything in their
power to stamp out his faith and the Christian faith in general.
Scott: Let me say this about that.
And I will leave you with this, gentlemen. When you roll the Trojan
Horse into the citadel, it is not long before the fort falls. The
Catholic Church has allowed Talmudic reasoning through Pope Paul
II and this new guy they have got in there. And what is going on
up here in Boston, you told me you were dissatisfied with somebody.
Well, now what is going on up here with the head of the hospital
network and his feely touchy with everyone and him just giving him
a reprimand, I mean the nonsense just goes on and on. And when people
talk about the Catholics perpetrating this stuff, and I see the
elements within the Church itself and within these Christian organizations
with inside Jewish people. I mean they don't even hide, and they
are the ones making all of these accusations, and bringing all this
information forth, which is good, but the way they do it, is not
necessarily not propaganda...
MCP: You know Scott, I always
say, "When you hear that word `interfaith', watch out! That
is the Zionist steamroller coming!"
Bollyn: There is one thing Mike,
in the 9-11 [Truth] Movement, there are a few people who like to
pin it on the Jesuits or Opus Day (spelling?) or the Catholic Church,
and they completely disregard evidence of Israeli involvement. And
they want to say the Vatican is behind attacking the United States
on 9-11. This is absolute rubbish. The evidence that has not been
disproven over four years is that the Israeli intelligence played
a major role in the execution of 9-11. And these people will go
on to say, "The Vatican is behind the Zionists." It is
absolutely absurd.
Scott: It is so absurd. And to
hear that kind of thing when the whole church is crumbling as a
result of these very people. And people can't see it. It is blindness.
And you guys are like the best. Keep it up. And I am praying for
you.
MCP: Scott, I appreciate your
call. Let us go on to Clayton from Missouri. Come on up.
Clayton: How are you doing, Mikie.
You were talking about the 9-11 Truth Movement. There is a fairly
odd way they avoid talking about the Jewish involvement, and the
Jewish involvement they do not want to touch it. Do not want to
go near it. And we all know who the major players are in all of
this 9-11 Truth Movement. I do not have to mention their names.
We all know who they are. But it seems there are one of two possibilities
here. They are either evil or they are stupid. And they are not
stupid, Mike. And I don't trust them. And I cannot prove it, but
I can just smell Zionist connections with these people. I cannot
prove it, but can just smell it. It seems to me that 9-11 and the
War Against Islam --it is not really a war against terrorism-- had
to have been planned out years in advance. I think the reason why
is because Islam is the last enemy that has to be defeated before
the Jews can establish their New World Order with Jerusalem as the
world capital. And they are using our military to do it. And that
is why we are just at the beginning of this thing. It is just getting
ready to get nasty. From what I understand, I think the Feds have
picked up what they call six or a half dozen Hezbollah terrorists
in New York City, this morning just in time for the Jewish prime
minister's visit to New York City. I can smell a stink all the way
here to St. Louis. I can see something happening in this country.
And it will be blamed on Iranian terrorists like Hezbollah, and
we will go after Iran, and this thing is going to get nasty. And
it is all because of these Israeli Zionists who we can't or won't
stop. And to get a hold on these people, I mean it is easy for us
to see what is happening here, but you know for other people they
just do not understand or see it, and it is frightening where they
are taking us.
Bollyn: Right, you know the thing
that has to be understood, is the 9-11 movement is co-opted by these
Zionist forces. The thing is that in the United States, the players
behind the politicians and the propaganda behind the 9-11 movement,
the so-called Truth Movement, are one or two steps back. I explained
to you about the Simon family. But there is the Rattner family in
Cleveland. The Simon family in Indianapolis. And other families
like that. And what they do is they provide a great deal of money
to people like the Clintons, to the Democratic Party, to Lee Hamilton,
for example, the Vice Chairman of the 9-11 Commission. Like the
Simon family, which this girl who is involved in the 9-11 movement,
Melvin Simon who heads that property group is a business partner
with Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowey (spelling?).
MCP: I know who Silverstein and
Lowey are, but there may be a few people out there who do not know
who they are.
Bollyn: Silverstein, you know
Larry Silverstein and Frank Lowey were the lease-holders who obtained
possession of the World Trade Center five weeks before 9-11 happened,
and they insured themselves to the hilt against exactly that kind
of event happening. And they collected handsomely off the Swiss
and German insurance companies after 9-11 occurred. And so what
happened is it is a classic kind of Jewish scam in which one gets
involved in something, and then an accident happens, and then they
get paid a hundred times over. It has happened so many times. Just
read American history. This is the classic insurance scam or a kind
of bank scam that these immigrants who came from Russia, these Jewish
immigrants from Russia, were involved in.
MCP: Yes Chris, you know it is
interesting, I know there are probably people out there who are
thinking "He is purveying anti-Semitism here." The reason
why the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) was founded in the early 1900's
was because there were law enforcement officials in New York City
and other major cities who were complaining about the fact that
many of these Jewish immigrants were in fact engaged in arson. And
that is why the old term "Jewish lightening" evolved.
We are not talking about anti-Semitism. These were law-enforcement
officials who were saying this. This is not some canard out of the
Protocols of the Elders of Zion here.
Bollyn: When I went to Europe
with June Walter on the 9-11 truth tour, there was one woman in
New York in the 9-11 Truth Movement, her name was Jeanette Orkin
(spelling?). She led a one woman campaign to keep me from going
on the tour. Then when I got on the tour, she did everything she
could from New York to try to get me to not speak. Now Jeanette
Orkin is the daughter of the Hollywood producer Harvey Orkin, called
the mighty Ork. And this is a very Zionist family. What is interesting
is that she is in the "dust" movement. You know, the dangers
of the dust [that have created lung and other health problems for
workers at the disaster site]. She does not address any of what
really happened to the towers. But I spoke with her today because
it turns out her grandfather, her father's father, in 1931, borrowed
a million dollars from banks in New York, and then was unable to
pay, and hanged himself in 1933. And I asked her if she knew what
happened to that money, because that was a great sum of money in
those days, and she was surprised that she had never even heard
of that. But this is the kind of thing. This is what we are facing.
These are the people. She is working to keep critics like me of
the Israeli involvement silenced. Yet at the same time her background
is very dodgy.
MCP: Clayton, I want to thank you for your call.
Let's move on to Matt from Vermont. Matt, come on up.
Matt: I just want to say that
I am looking forward to getting my first copy of the American
Free Press. I also want to discuss political activism.
Because isn't enough to get this information out. You guys are obviously
doing a great job. But do you ever call for a boycott? Are there
T-shirts? Are there buttons or bumper stickers? That is the mentality.
That is where I am coming from. I am like a campaigner. Some of
the things like promoting the people who are running for office
that you have done, that is a good thing. But what can we do nationally?
Besides having talk shows and getting out this information, is there
any group or web site or anything like that you can recommend?
MCP: Well, you know I would just
like to comment on that. There are so many people who are doing
so many things. They complement one another, that is, they are working
together. But on the other hand Chris has pointed out that so many
people in the so-called 9-11 Truth Movement, well, they will not
even mention the Zionist connection. I am not sure we are really
on the same team there. That is part of the problem here.
Bollyn: Right, and Mike what has
to be understood is that these relationships --it is a small network
of people. What I am trying to do is I am trying to determine who
are the players. Who are the families. Who are the people who are
trying to cover up the evidence of 9-11 and are actively promoting
the government version. Like I spoke about the Rattner family of
Forest City Enterprises of Cleveland. These people own immense amounts
of property in the United States. Now they are billionaires. One
of their brothers, Michael Rattner, one of their cousins, is working
with George Soros in the Center for Constitutional Review, I think
it is. He is actually the lawyer representing the people in Guantanamo.
He is a far left wing lawyer working with Kunstler and that group,
and he is representing 70 of these prisoners in Guantanamo. Now
for four and a half years these people in Guantanamo have gone nowhere.
And I ask you, does Michael Rattner really have their best interests
at heart?
MCP: That is a scary question,
because if you cannot trust your own lawyer, who can you trust?
Bollyn: He is the brother of Ellen
Rattner from Fox News. And he is the brother of Bruce Rattner who
owns the New Jersey Nicks and runs Forest City New York. And a new
movie about 9-11 is coming out by Joel Rattner. They are all related
people.
[50:40 music and ad break].
MCP: [54:00 end of break]. Welcome
back, this is Michael Collins Piper, we are wrapping up a real interesting
hour. We are here with Christopher Bollyn, one of the real leaders
in the 9-11 Truth Movement. Let us go to Patrick in Atlanta. Patrick,
come on up.
Patrick: I wanted to say it is
a pleasure to hear your conversation with Christopher, and God bless
both of you for the work that you are doing. .. I wanted to call
about a comment you made earlier about some criticism [by a gentlemen
who called on a prior show and felt MCP spent too much time talking
about Jews]. If you are not discussing the Jews and their intrigues,
you would not have a show. That is the whole basis of all the shows
on the short wave talk radio.
MCP: [laughter] I think you are
absolutely right.
Patrick: Number two. You brought
up about the spying issue. The History Channel put a series on,
which they show occasionally, about great spy stories. They showed
a segment about Israeli spy capabilities. And everyone talks about
the Six Day War and about how the Arabs are going to destroy them,
and whatnot, but then you hear these religious people talking about
how it was the hand of God that saved them from the Arabs. They
were going to get wiped off, and surely it was God who saved them.
It is proof that they are God's Chosen People, right? But this thing
on the History Channel showed that the whole deal boiled down to
a double agent inside the Arab military and that is how they had
all the necessary people ready. That is why they were ready for
the invasion. They knew it was coming.
MCP: You know Patrick, if you
look at the whole 9-11 thing, let's face it, there is only one country
in the world that benefited from the 9-11 terrorist attacks, and
it was not Saudi Arabia, and it was not Syria, and it was not Iraq
or Iran, it was Israel.
Patrick: There is no doubt about
that. It is the one country bold enough to pull it off. I mean,
no one else in their right minds would conceive of such an idea
to begin with.
MCP: Christopher, we are going
to be wrapping up in a minute or two. Did you have any comments
on this?
Bollyn: Yes, I just wanted to
say that I will be doing a follow up piece on this. I will do it
this week. I will be going into more detail about this small network
of people who are behind promoting the government version, and the
media people, and the billionaires [involved in the cover-up], because
once we understand who is behind it, then we know who has to be
stopped, and where the problem lies. And another thing is that this
report validates my claim that there was thermite in the building.
They talk about all the molten metal that pouring off the World
Trade Center, particularly the South Tower. And the puffs of smoke
and the pressure pulses that accompanied each flow of metal. I got
a question on this now, because clearly the metal pouring out of
World Trade Center was iron, and not aluminum, and that indicates
that there were extremely high temperatures on the 81st floor, which
were probably used to cut those big central columns to precipitate
the collapse of the building. So those are two things that I will
be writing about this week. If you read American Free
Press, you will find some very interesting stuff next
week.
MCP: Christopher, thank you for
making that important point, because the fact is you are not going
to get this information anywhere else except from Christopher Bollyn
and the American Free Press, ladies and
gentlemen. And of course here on RBN where there are hosts --not
just me -- but other hosts who are not afraid to talk about these
controversial things. Patrick, thanks for your call. Apologies to
those we cannot bring in. Thanks as always to Christopher. Thanks
ladies and gentlemen. We need your support for the Republic Broadcasting
Network because your support makes programs like this possible.
Stay tuned for more good programming, ladies and gentlemen, and
have a good evening. See you tomorrow night.
[end 58:40].
